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Post by amanuensis on Oct 23, 2020 18:22:02 GMT -6
Now that El Sembrador has started it's religious programming, has any noticed whether it is still (temporarily) IDing as KLO?
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Terry
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Post by Terry on Oct 23, 2020 22:00:51 GMT -6
At 10pm: "1430 KLO, Utah radio".
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Post by tardiscaptain on Oct 24, 2020 19:53:14 GMT -6
So any guess on when the call sign change will take place for both stations?
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Oct 25, 2020 6:23:06 GMT -6
The FCC runs on their own calendar.
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Post by David on Oct 25, 2020 7:00:03 GMT -6
The FCC database shows that they've approved the modification of 1430's license from commercial to non-commercial, and El Sembrador is now listed as the station's owner. Looks like the only thing Capital is waiting on now is the approval for 103.1 to change their call to KLO-FM.
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Post by oldiesfunhouse on Oct 26, 2020 9:50:33 GMT -6
The internet stream was still up as of 6 AM this morning playing the America's Best Music and interrupting a song after the top of the hour, doing a legal ID, and then going into CBS news. Anybody care to speculate as to how long the stream will be left on? It plays a local commercial before it connects so maybe they have to fulfill those obligations before the stream is shut off. Is there any possibility of them leaving it on as an online only station? That seems doubtful to me because there are plenty of stations still carrying that network that stream on the internet such as KRKK in Rock Springs. I've noticed none of the "rimshots" run in HD. Is that because they would have to put it on all of their repeaters? Since the stream is still on, I wondered if there might be a possibility of them putting that format on 103.1 HD2 since it will have the KLO call letters and then put it on a translator. I'm really doubtful of this too. Maybe they don't have to pay for the stream again until a certain billing date so they're just leaving it on until then. Thoughts?
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Oct 27, 2020 2:49:09 GMT -6
"Can", "should" and "will" are three different things. There is also the question of what each of those things costs. The music and the news could easily be strictly barter and not cost anything. If the stream is running an ad first then that could be on a barter basis too. The next question would be 'why would they?' Unless they're selling ads in the stream there's no money in that and it costs at a minimum time to maintain it. As for why the rimshots don't run "HD", if I remember correctly the digital carrier is 10% of the analog signal's power. That puts the Wasatch Front boosters running 5-25 watts. Digital is tricky with a full power station. That would be nuts. And anyway what translator is available? Sure we can play the what-if game, but realistically.....no. My guess is the stream is just running on autopilot until something gets shut off or breaks. If it's working, leave it alone. It isn't hurting anyone.
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Post by oldiesfunhouse on Oct 27, 2020 9:15:20 GMT -6
Of course you are very likely spot on, CA, with your message. I just wish somebody with way more money than brains would take an interest in the Salt Lake market. Let me preface what I'm about to say by apologizing to those who are in here that own radio stations. I realize you folks have to feed your families and keep a positive balance in your bank accounts so you HAVE to "play it safe". That being said, I think that in the late 80s and early 90s, Salt Lake City was one of the best markets in America. Today, I think it's one of the worst. Back then, there was really a little something for everyone. Conservative talk, liberal edgy talk, smooth jazz, classic jazz, standardsetc. Nowadays we have three stations playing country and not one playing standards. Frank Sinatra, Bing Crosby, Nat King Cole et al deserve to be on the radio in my opinion. And the conservatives are always complaining about "the liberal media". I'd like to know where the liberal media is. It sure ain't in Salt Lake City these days with the possible exception of NPR. I realize that money talks and … well, you know the rest, but it would sure be cool if someone with a lot of money and also a genuine love of the art form that is radio would come along. I'll get back to you all when I win the lottery. There are these little radio gems you can find all across the country. KSOP AM and 104.3-2 is certainly one of them, as is Jeff Caplan's Minute of News on KSL. We were drving through Fort Collins Colorado and I found a station called 931 the Pirate. They played everything from Nat King Cole to Abba and even some newer stuff. For a little while I thought it might have actually been a pirate radio station because it was at 93.1 and KTCL is in Denver at 93.3. But they had commercials and people from the community and even a website. At the top of the hour I did hear their legal ID. I don't remember the call letters but they ran on a bunch of little translators too, I think. They do stream if you google "931 the pirate". It's definitely a fun listen. I miss the days when there was really radio you could get excited about, like tuning in at 20 minutes passed every hour in the morning to hear Timmy, the Bible Brothers, Mr. Twister, etc. on Rock 103. I know it's weird that I love standars AND edgy talk radio. You wouldn't think that one person would love those two formats. But, man, if you ever heard the Weasel of the Week with Martin Davies on KCNR, KWUN, and finally KIQN, that was radio worth rescheduling your lunch break at work for. He and his callers were hilarious. I'd say the best local talk show in Salt Lake today is SP Romney on KBJA. I don't like politics and he does get into that but he also talks about lots of other subjects. RIP Unforgettable AM 1430.
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Post by David on Oct 28, 2020 19:36:14 GMT -6
FWIW: KLO's previous format is no longer streaming on TuneIn or Simple Radio as of 7:30 PM Wednesday. It's dead, Jim.
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Post by oldiesfunhouse on Oct 29, 2020 9:04:59 GMT -6
I just checked the stream on my ooTunes app. It's runs the commercial and then connects to streaming dead air theater. You can hear a bit of a sixty cycle hum if you turn it up and they just played a legal ID saying that CBS news start now and then it went back to silence again. So it's definitely flatlining but the plug hasn't been pulled quite yet as of 9 AM on October 29.b
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Post by tardiscaptain on Nov 1, 2020 21:52:02 GMT -6
Listening to 103.1 The Wave today (Sunday, Nov 1st) and they were using the KLO call letters on the station IDs.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Nov 3, 2020 0:33:28 GMT -6
Well, according to the FCC database that's not effective yet. I doubt the FCC cares. It's just that the paperwork hasn't gone through yet.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Nov 5, 2020 18:21:51 GMT -6
It happened.
The callsign changes went into effect Nov 3. 1430 is now officially KMES and 103.1 is now officially KLO-FM. Was The Wave using the full KLO-FM callsign or did they say just KLO? I'm wondering if they'll drop the -FM suffix now that the root callsign is available. The only other outstanding piece was the online stream. The stream linked to from the website seems completely unavailable.
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Post by David on Nov 5, 2020 20:17:17 GMT -6
1430 deleted its Facebook page last week, but for some reason their web site is still up. Unless Capital Broadcasting is just keeping the domain name registered to prevent anyone else from acquiring it, I can't understand why they haven't deleted their web page as well. I don't see any reason for 103.1 to change the address of its web site, because that station has been known as "103.1 The Wave" since its format change in 2016.
BTW, the FCC database is still showing KSQN as the call sign for 103.1, so apparently it hasn't been updated yet.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Nov 6, 2020 0:53:45 GMT -6
The domain name is paid for until February. Every web host I've ever dealt with (there have been many) requires prepayment as well. It might also be significant that Capital's employee email is linked from the KLO site but not from the Now 97.9 site or the Wave site.
The FCC has multiple databases. The CDBS database has been updated as has the callsign reservation system. LMS (which the AM/FM Query pages uses) has not. LMS is a new system that the FCC has very slowly switching to.
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