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Post by Guest for now on Jul 7, 2008 16:42:51 GMT -7
I'm not going to paste the entire article here, since that would risk violation of copyright, but I'm curious to read about Cache Valley from the D-News. When did CVRadio start operating/selling advertising time on 104.9 and 103.9? Is 104.9 even audible in SLC anymore? (never mind that both stations are licensed or were to Tremonton, last I checked) tinyurl.com/5mo3cxAlso, KBLQ is "Adult Contemporary" (very different from standards last I checked), never mind the typo. Perhaps some of the firing came at the copy desk. |
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jul 7, 2008 21:06:17 GMT -7
You're right. KBLQ is a lite AC, IMHO. There's a little bit of crossover between lite AC and standards, but not enough to warrant giving them that label.
Frandsen owns Cache Valley Radio, right?
Yes, 104.9 can be heard in Salt Lake. It's not particularly strong of course, but the signal is definitely usable. I don't think that made Citadel very happy when both KYLZ and KKAT(AM) were both running the Jones classic country feed.
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Post by Radio Dude on Jul 10, 2008 9:32:23 GMT -7
 After reading the article, I will tell you that I feel that Kent Frandsen should not be allowed to keep his arsenal of 7, I repeat 7, stations in the Cache Valley Area. I worked in the market when the Bullens owned KVNU, Dan Gerard had the station in Smithfield, and Frandsen had just a couple of signals. This essentially creates a cartel-like control over ad rates in the valley and stifles competition. There is also another problem: with Frandsen you are either a golden boy and paid a mint or you make a pittance. He also has a bad reputation of trying to mix religion in with sales. He does it in Cache Valley and did it with Jim Burgoyne in Blackfoot, Idaho and now does it with Sandhill in Idaho Falls.
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Post by friendlee on Jul 10, 2008 10:40:43 GMT -7
radio dude.....do I know you?
Yes it seemed so much more fun when we all had cross-town rivals....even if there wasn't that much of a rivalry. Kept us on our toes!
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Post by tomgrover on Jul 10, 2008 19:29:26 GMT -7
Radio Dude,
You sound like a disgruntled former employee.
I'm leaving CVRG/KVNU for law school in a couple weeks and I'll give it to you straight. The idea that CVRG is a monopoly or a cartel as you assert is ridiculous. Where is the monopoly? In advertising? Each company in town has an advertising budget. We compete with the Herald Journal, comcast and Utah Public Radio for ad dollars.
Is the monopoly/cartel in signals? We get city grade signals of Salt Lake stations in the valley. At KVNU I'm very aware that I am up against KNRS and KSL and their mountain of resources, both of which have strong signals in the valley. There are dozens of choices outside CVRG on the dial for Cache Valley listeners.
I also take exception to calling Kent's character into question anonymously. If you want to do that, show some character yourself and put your name behind what you say. Until then, you sir, are a coward.
Kent treats ALL his employees VERY well. He is the best boss I've ever had. In addition to competitive and generous pay, CVRG is BY FAR the best working environment I have EVER been in. I seriously doubt when I practice law that I will ever experience an environment that even rivals what Kent has set up. Basically, he gives his employees complete flexibility and autonomy and in return expects the job to be done. In the three years I've worked for him I've never asked for time off, I've simply let the know when I'd be gone and they were cool with that. That's true of everyone at CVRG.
The allegation of mixture of religion and business is ridiculous. I've worked closely with Kent for three years and never once seen any behavior like that. Like I said, it takes a real coward to go on the internet and anonymously impune the character of an upstanding guy like Kent Frandsen.
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Post by tomgrover on Jul 10, 2008 19:33:19 GMT -7
And one more thing... Kent's seven stations provide an economy of scale that allows for a level of localism and local programming that you won't find in stations in markets our size or even on some stations in Salt Lake. KVNU, for example, is in a market of 100,000 people and has 7+ local hours 6am-7pm M-F (thats without Utah State or high school games). The only other News Talk in the state with more is KSL.
CVRG donates a fortune each year in advertising to various charities and causes in the community. CVRG and in particular KVNU is the focal point of the community here and that's because Kent is committed to serving the community. I know damn well that he could make A LOT more money by taking the time that I'm on air (with three other paid employees) and just put some syndicated crap on. But he doesn't. He's invested in the community in a way that is rare in radio and he deserves to be commended for it, not derided.
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Post by Guest for now on Jul 10, 2008 21:08:51 GMT -7
Tom, that's good news, I only wish the same level of enthusiasm was apparent for Sand Hill Media in Idaho Falls. But then again, I don't fully understand how the Frandsens and Simmons Families sort out that operation.
I know they used to share voice-tracked talent between both markets but I'm not sure if that is still the case. I still remember hearing Tara on VFX in Salt Lake City and knowing full well she lived and worked in Idaho Falls.
They had a really great thing going with X94 but killed it off for another soft AC. I don't quite understand why that market with so many sticks from Island Park to Pocatello needs 3-4 soft-to-hot AC stations and zero alt. rockers.
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Post by Yet Another Guest on Jul 11, 2008 16:03:48 GMT -7
Another Guest: You are right on the money! It's not only another AC station (94.3), it is also bumping KBYI onto its frequency at less power, in order to go 100kw. KBYI has been on that frequency (100.5) since the early 80's. Plus, how many more country stations does that market need? New Country 99.5 is their latest acquisition, and it is nothing more than an IPOD with voice tracks. Goodness sakes you've got Q102, KZBQ, KOUU-AM, The Hawk, KUPI, KQPI and KKMV out of Rupert that penetrates fairly well into the market. I am not an alternative music fan, but it would seem to me a much more logical choice. But Frandsen and Carver keep the AC to compete against their old "family" members from KLCE. I'm just waiting for them to add "Sounds of the Sabbath" to make it complete!
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Post by bigbopper on Jul 11, 2008 16:05:13 GMT -7
Wow, Tom... I have never worked in Logan, but I have WANTED to for a long time. How would I go about it in the future???
The company sounds like it does things that a BIG city can't. Localism. In my opinion, radio is dying in the big cities, but those smaller markets rely on the signals as much as ever. Once again, my opinion.
I saw the studios up in Logan a few years ago and was very impressed. AND I was in SLC then too, in the "big" market. I am so looking for a change. Thanks for putting old disgruntled radio dude in his place. Obviously disgruntled.
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After reading the article, I will tell you that I feel that Kent Frandsen should not be allowed to keep his arsenal of 7, I repeat 7, stations in the Cache Valley Area. I worked in the market when the Bullens owned KVNU, Dan Gerard had the station in Smithfield, and Frandsen had just a couple of signals. This essentially creates a cartel-like control over ad rates in the valley and stifles competition. There is also another problem: with Frandsen you are either a golden boy and paid a mint or you make a pittance. He also has a bad reputation of trying to mix religion in with sales. He does it in Cache Valley and did it with Jim Burgoyne in Blackfoot, Idaho and now does it with Sandhill in Idaho Falls.
