Terry
Silver Level Member
Posts: 488
Usual Listening Area: east Murray
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Post by Terry on Nov 2, 2015 10:13:04 GMT -6
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Nov 3, 2015 4:10:18 GMT -6
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Post by bonnevillemariner on Nov 3, 2015 10:46:48 GMT -6
No kidding. I ranted here about this when it first came on the air a few years ago. Didn't get much discussion here for some reason. If I recall correctly, some of you seriously downplayed it. Funny that it's suddenly Drudge-worthy!
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Post by bonnevillemariner on Nov 3, 2015 10:53:08 GMT -6
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Post by David on Nov 3, 2015 20:30:13 GMT -6
“Our U.S. public … can choose to listen or not to listen. I think this is an American value.” James Su, president and CEO, G&E
Judging by KDYL's absence in the ratings since the station dropped the real oldies format in early 2013, I'd say that the people of Salt Lake have chosen not to listen. And given the muddy audio and crappy signal of KDYL since it was leased/sold to CRI, it's easy to understand why. The FCC says that KDYL is broadcasting with 10,000 watts daytime, but I have a feeling that's far from accurate. The station's signal is much weaker in Ogden than it was when KDYL had a real oldies format, and the audio is almost as bad as two tin cans and a string. By contrast, KSOP-AM (also in South Salt Lake) has a 5 KW daytime signal that booms into Ogden, and their audio is hi-fi compared to KDYL's mushy sound. The station in Washington may be a factor in the ratings, but if all the other US CRI facilities are as poor as KDYL, I can't see CRI being much of a force in the US unless they spend the dough to upgrade their transmission facilities, or at least hire some competent engineering staff. For now I think that KDOA would be a better call for KDYL as CA suggested in the archived thread.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Nov 3, 2015 23:23:07 GMT -6
If G&E isn't subscribing to Nielsen then they won't show up in the public ratings. Even if they did subscribe I wouldn't be at all surprised if they still didn't show up. If stations like KKAT, KLO or KTKK barely show up I don't see what chance the new KDYL has.
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Post by David on Nov 4, 2015 12:09:05 GMT -6
Apparently KDYL doesn't even have anyone monitoring what's going out over the air. I've listened to the station on and off during the past week, and I keep hearing drop-outs in the audio every 5-10 seconds. (It sounds like what I call digital burps.) If no one at the station is even paying attention to the quality of the signal they're sending out over the air, I don't see the new KDYL ever having more than a handful of listeners in the SLC market.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Nov 6, 2015 6:19:36 GMT -6
I tend to doubt there actually IS anyone at the station. My educated guess is that there's somebody somewhere who's minding the public file and a contract engineer who gets called when something needs fixing.
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Post by David on Nov 6, 2015 18:57:59 GMT -6
This quote from the All Access article is a HUGE crock of BS, since it was reported in this forum in March of this year that KDYL was sold to the same company that had been leasing the station: "SU told REUTERS that his programming complies with U.S. law because his company leases rather than owns stations; the REUTERS story notes that under American law, those seeking to influence U.S. policy or public opinion for a foreign government must register with the Justice Department." Here's the link to the post about the sale of KDYL: talkingutahradio.proboards.com/thread/1360/kdyl-1060-sold-change-expectedI wonder if Mr. Su has told the same lie to the DOJ! |
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Nov 7, 2015 7:52:26 GMT -6
As far as the stations listed in the article are concerned, Mr Su is correct. They DO lease those stations.
As for KDYL, that's a little more complicated. KDYL is majority owned by Universal Broadcasting Group which appears to be run and/or owned by James Su. The company that is 60% owned by China Radio International is G&E Studios, which is run by Mr Su. It's CRI that is providing the programming. As a practical matter they could be considered the same thing, but technically they aren't. I imagine this was done intentionally for exactly this reason. The FCC could start getting into arms-length arguments, but the statement that the Chinese owned programmer doesn't own any stations is correct as far as I know. (I didn't look at all stations they program, but I've looked at several.)
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Post by David on Nov 7, 2015 14:55:11 GMT -6
With all due respect, what you've described sounds so convoluted that only a politician or a Government agency could have written it. Therefore, I'm not surprised that it's going to take both the FCC and the DOJ to figure out if any U.S. laws have been violated.  |
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Nov 8, 2015 10:22:49 GMT -6
Oh I totally agree. It's a huge mess. I was looking through documentation for over an hour to put that together, and I'm not even sure it's 100% correct.  Of course that's more than the press has been doing. |
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Of course that's more than the press has been doing.