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Post by levoix on Aug 20, 2011 0:21:01 GMT -6
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Post by maxxfordham on Aug 20, 2011 23:08:12 GMT -6
Oh, hey, thanks!
Well, what I would love to see is a regular alert that something major is even just about to happen, because I'd love to be made aware of these things enough ahead of time that I could actually set up to listen to and record the changes as they happen over the air!
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Post by kenglish on Aug 21, 2011 7:47:48 GMT -6
Websense is blocking your page:
"Your organization's Internet use policy restricts access to this web page at this time.
Reason:
This Websense category is filtered: Potentially Damaging Content."
You might want to contact them and see what is wrong. Probably a "phishing" type of ad has been attached to it.
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Post by levoix on Aug 22, 2011 9:33:54 GMT -6
Hmmm...thanks for the heads up. I'll check into it.
As for the alerts, if you get wind of a change coming, Tweet me at @newsutah.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Aug 22, 2011 23:21:52 GMT -6
I suppose it goes without saying but we'll have any news here as well.
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Post by maxxfordham on Aug 23, 2011 0:41:55 GMT -6
Yes, CA, true of course! But a lot of it is after-the-fact. What I'm hoping for is a system that always keeps us alert of those upcoming changes before the fact. And... also an opt-in system that e-mails us notifications of those articles/threads!
But of course in order to do that, we'd/they'd have to have some sort of a liason with all the "big wigs" in the area who are in charge of making those big changes.
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Post by Timmy on Aug 23, 2011 4:37:54 GMT -6
Most big changes are planned and kept quiet up to the actual execution. I don't know who'll ever divulge such things on a regular basis. Especially for major changes. It's the nature of the business. I knew a little about the recent KSOP changes but that wasn't what I'd call a major change.
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Post by levoix on Aug 23, 2011 9:27:19 GMT -6
I suppose it goes without saying but we'll have any news here as well. Right, and I by no means want to take any focus away from this board. I'll link here if needed. |
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Aug 23, 2011 23:50:03 GMT -6
I think that's perfectly fine levoix. Working together should be mutually beneficial and I'll welcome that.
maxx, I understand what you mean. There have been times when I've been tipped off to things that were going to happen, but that was strictly on the Q.T. Really I shouldn't have been told at all since I'm not part of those organizations and it was supposed to be confidential. Naturally I respected that and didn't repeat anything until I was given the green light which was usually at the same time it went public anyway. That's the nature of the radio business. People are paranoid. I think it's generally taken farther than needed, but that's the decision of those in charge.
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Post by maxxfordham on Aug 24, 2011 1:46:16 GMT -6
I think that's perfectly fine, Levoix. Working together should be mutually beneficial and I'll welcome that. Maxx, I understand what you mean. There have been times when I've been tipped off to things that were going to happen, but that was strictly on the Q.T. Really I shouldn't have been told at all since I'm not part of those organizations and it was supposed to be confidential. Naturally I respected that and didn't repeat anything until I was given the green light which was usually at the same time it went public anyway. That's the nature of the radio business. People are paranoid. I think it's generally taken farther than needed, but that's the decision of those in charge. Hey, what does "Q.T." mean? Yeah, it's too bad. But still, at least we get to hear about those things that Levoix and you find out about ahead of time and are green-lighted about. But anyway, if a station is about to flip, they'll be telling us on the air a little while ahead, anyway. If we're avid listeners, then we'll catch it that way. The problem with that is exactly that: we'd have to be really avid listeners to all the stations in order to catch the who-knows-how-seldom flip they might have. So... not only can we hear some of that info. ahead of time from the heads who still choose to tell you ahead of time, but if you happen to hear about one coming up on one of your favorite stations or another one you were just happening to listen to at the time. That second way is really hit-and-miss, though. But hopefully those two ways will still give us enough heads-up that we can catch some of those flips when they're about to happen. Sometimes what I've seen is that if I had just been checking in on this site or the other site like it often enough, I might have caught a flip or two in time. I know there's an e-mail notification system for any response to our initial comments or responses here, but I wish there was an e-mail notification system we could get on that would alert us to flip-specific things. Levoix, can you create a system like that for your site, where every time you get a bit of news that a station is about to flip, you'd put an alert about it in that "box"? Or maybe even you, CAwas? Does this site's format have a tool--or can you get one--that would allow you to add any flip alert to a special e-mail notification "box"? I guess the closest thing to that that we already know of here would be to have a thread that you copy everybody's randomly placed flip alerts to, which those interested in getting e-mail alerts to could be subscribed to. Is that about as slick and simple as it might get here, or is there an even more slick type of thing possible for that? |
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Post by levoix on Aug 24, 2011 7:41:45 GMT -6
A format change is rarely, if ever, discussed with the staff of a radio station. The decision to change direction is usually up to the program director, music director or general manager....or even upper-upper management. If we ever get an inclination that something is up, we'll usually tweet it. Since newsutah.org is a news site, we won't post a rumor until it becomes fact, which is usually the day of the change anyway. I will, however, take rumors and investigate them further. Send me a tweet at @newsutah, and I'll check it out.  By the way, I'm a long-time "lurker" here, but wanted to start contributing, so I created an account. I was on-air here in Utah, but left to pursue other opportunities. Nice to meet you all! |
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Post by maxxfordham on Aug 24, 2011 16:48:57 GMT -6
Wait... doesn't management count as staff, too? Also, is it sometimes possible to get that info. from one of those members of management that you mentioned, then?
Will you post to here anything that you've heard might happen (that you're allowed to say), even if it's not fact, yet, just so that in case it does become fact, then at least we can be prepared and watching for it?
Haha, I like how you just assumed I already knew what a "tweet" is. What if I had been someone who didn't already have a Twitter account or even know what Twitter is?
How does "sending someone a tweet" work, anyway? I've always thought that in order for someone to hear our tweets, they have to be following us. Are you saying that we can actually send a public mention and that person or company will hear it even if they're not following us? Twitter would be a rather closed system if that weren't the case, wouldn't it?
(By the way, I've always wondered why some people treat user names there as if the "@" belonged as part of the user names, even though in fact it does not. The @ symbol there is just for that public mention function. A d can replace the @ for sending a private message. Any idea why so many people, including Jimmy Fallon, have errantly been treating the @ symbol as if it were part of evryone's user name like that?)
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Aug 24, 2011 22:17:23 GMT -6
"Q.T." is an old fashioney term for quiet.
I agree that more often than not a station won't mention that they're going to flip. They would like at least some of the same audience to stay for the new format, but more importantly they don't want to tip off the competition. You probably weren't here for the <bleep>storm when we broke the story of KKAT(AM) dropping True Oldies for talk a few years ago. The news wasn't supposed to get out, but the new logo appeared on the door at Citadel. They were Very Not Happy.
There really isn't much I can do with the software this board run as far as creating mailing lists or anything of that sort. I've considered taking the whole thing in house and running it directly but I don't think that's really worth all the effort. If you all think otherwise we can talk about it, but I have a feeling it will become more of a bother than it's worth. You can rest assured though that any news I run across that I'm allowed to discuss will be posted here ASAP.
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Post by levoix on Aug 25, 2011 16:48:37 GMT -6
CA, I don't think there's any need to move this forum. Too much of a hassle, plus you'd have to deal with a hosting company that can handle the traffic, etc.
I enjoyed the discussions on this board, and "the purple one"....a few years back. They were lively, informative and were a great reflection of how exciting the radio biz is. I kinda miss that.
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Post by maxxfordham on Aug 25, 2011 21:35:43 GMT -6
Yeah, CAwas, naw... I wouldn't want to put you through all that extra effort just for me. You have a good thing going here. But maybe we can just copy all news to an "alert thread," and then anyone interested can subscribe to that for e-mail alerts. That might just work! What do you think?
Yeah, I either hadn't heard of or don't remember that thing with the KKAT AM thing. Even that transition might have been mildly interesting: last song plays, then some big "banner" announcement/ribbon-cutting type of announcement, then... just talking. Hmm...
Yeah, Levoix, I'm on the site with some purple in it, too. Hey, you know, it still operates. It's not as lively as it once was or as this one is, but it still gets new responses now and then. But... wait, isn't it actually more blue than purple?
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