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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jul 23, 2022 7:36:07 GMT -6
I think KOOL may be going to 92.1 K221GK and very soon.
The wording of the conditions of the move of the translator up to the Oquirrhs is a little confusing since it says "from the grant of the construction permit" but other than that everything lines up. The grant of the license to cover for the move happened 7/26/17. Since it was moved as part of "AM revitalization" it's required to rebroadcast KALL for 4 years, not counting any periods of silence. It was listed as silent for 364 days from 8/10/17 - 8/9/18. Subtracting the not quite 1 year of silence from the time since the license to cover was granted puts the 4 year mark next week. That does explain a few things. For instance, why KOOL didn't move to its new home right away. Also, why ESPN 700 has never (as far as I know) promoted being on FM. Related to that, why the translator is being fed by the AM signal.
We'll have to see if I'm right.
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Post by David on Jul 23, 2022 22:05:41 GMT -6
If Broadway's goal is (was?) to move KOOL FM to a stronger frequency, 92.1 would actually be a downgrade IMO. 92.1 is only 99 watts and is barely audible outside of Davis County, while 105.5 is 250 watts and has good coverage into Weber County. I never had a problem hearing KOOL when it was on 105.5, which is very unusual considering that I live in an area with mediocre FM reception.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jul 25, 2022 8:35:54 GMT -6
K221GK isn't as good a signal as K288GY, either by power or by directionality. That's certain. It is however better than only being on a digital subchannel. Broadway has clearly shown that their priority is with Bob and it's hard to argue with that call. Bob's demos are somewhat problematic and they're 15-20 years younger than KOOL's. They obviously wanted to get Bob on K288GY ASAP. If KOOL does end up on K221GK and Broadway cared equally about both stations then they would have waited until they could do both at the same time. All we got was some vague talk about the future plans "We are moving frequency in hope of getting a stronger signal later." It is true that K221GK is stronger now than it was a few months ago. It's also true that the word stronger can mean either a higher wattage signal or more of a bigger physical presence, like being more muscular.
But, another thought just occurred to me that would better fit with that quote and also tie in with the end of the 4 year no change clause. What if U92 moves to K221GK/92.1 and KOOL takes over the 92.5 signal? 92.5 is a better signal than either 92.1 or 105.5, Kool was generally doing better raw-numbers-wise than U92, and during the waiting period since March Broadway would keep the 2 lower demoed formats on analog. I also wouldn't be surprised if the core audience for U92 was in the immediate Salt Lake area, which is covered by K221GK just fine. The more I think about it the more I think I like this theory better.
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Post by amanuensis on Jul 25, 2022 16:41:35 GMT -6
KUUU going from 92.5 to 92.1 would be low cost since the existing branding could continue to be used.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jul 26, 2022 14:03:06 GMT -6
KUUU going from 92.5 to 92.1 would be low cost since the existing branding could continue to be used. True, but it's more than that. KUUU was previously on 92.1 back when it was licensed to Tooele. It was a simulcast with KTCE, which was on 92.3 back then is on 92.1 today. I wonder if KTCE might be interested in a simulcast again after all these years. |
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Post by oldiesfunhouse on Aug 8, 2022 9:22:22 GMT -6
We know that U92 is stunting now with something being announced at 3 PM this afternoon. I've been listening to KOOL's stream for the last 15 minutes or so and everything seems to be business as usual. There has been no mention of a big announcement. But the timing of U92's stunting would definitely support the theory here. I guess we'll know a little bit more at 3 PM. 92 cent gas? |
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Post by oldiesfunhouse on Aug 8, 2022 15:46:37 GMT -6
Well, we now know that KOOL is not going to 92.5. It is now 925 the Beat. Something that might be of interest to KOOL listeners. The guy that was ushering in the new Beat thanked a couple of people at Broadway Media for all their help. One of them was Alan Hague who, of course, is heard middays on KOOL. So now, I guess the question is, is 92.1 KOOL FM in our future or not? I did hear Rockin' Rob filling in form Mark Waldi one afternoon on Bob so the KOOL DJs are doing other things for the company.I don't listen to KALL a whole lot but, Ca, you are right. The times I have listened, I have NEVER heard them mention 92.1. I hope your theory is right. |
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Aug 8, 2022 16:01:13 GMT -6
FYI, Hague has been with Broadway and its predecessor Simmons off and on for 30 years.
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Post by henry on Aug 8, 2022 20:55:34 GMT -6
A thought: Even before U92 flipped to "92.5 The Beat," they've been ID'ing as "U92 point 5."
Why would U92 suddenly add the decimal place if not for... say, another station (Kool 92.1?) in the cluster also using the 92 dialspot?
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Post by David on Aug 9, 2022 2:34:53 GMT -6
FYI, Hague has been with Broadway and its predecessor Simmons off and on for 30 years. And before that, Alan was executive VP of Carlson Communications from 1967 to 1992, according to his LinkedIn resume. Of course, Carlson Communications was the long time owner of KRSP/KDYL 1060, and several other radio stations in Utah. |
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Post by oldiesfunhouse on Aug 22, 2022 9:27:33 GMT -6
Any thoughts as to why there hasn't been any movement regarding KOOL FM? Just about every time I'm in the car I keep checking 92.1 and it's still a relay of KALL AM. If KOOL isn't going to 92.1, I really wish they would send KALL's signal to 92.1 through the board like they do their internet stream instead of through their AM signal. You can even hear the AM hiss on 92.1 at night. The fact they haven't made that change and that they don't promote the fact that KALL can be heard there, still makes me believe there's going to be movement. I guess I just kind of thought it would be done by now. But maybe there's new websites to be bought, new jingles to be sung etc. I was just curious as to what those of you "in the know", so to speak, thought about why there hasn't been any changes yet. Could there still be legal ramifications where they're still required to carry KALL on that frequency? Just curious.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Aug 24, 2022 3:55:18 GMT -6
Just to make sure that everyone is clear and there's no misunderstanding, my prediction is based solely on my reading of the FCC files followed by a lot of educated guessing. Nothing more. That said....
There are a million possible reasons why KALL is still on 92.1, not the least of which is that Broadway doesn't own it. It's still owned by Sanpete County Broadcasting and they would have the final say on what is broadcast. That also might have something to do with why the translator is getting the KALL signal off the air; so Sanpete exercises actual control of the K221GK air signal by picking KALL up and relaying it itself.
August might not be the best time to (re)launch a station (The Beat notwithstanding.) On the other hand, Labor Day weekend is a fairly traditional time for launches, so maybe that's the plan. I figure that SCB must have some idea of what the future holds for the translator, but whoever might know isn't talking. If there isn't a plan, give it to me. I have a format, and it's one I don't think the market has ever seen before. (So no it isn't oldies.)
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Post by Kelsey on Aug 24, 2022 10:39:15 GMT -6
Broadway doesn't own 92.1? I thought U92 was 92.1 while Simmons owned it, and under Broadway they moved to 92.5.
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Post by oldiesfunhouse on Aug 24, 2022 13:29:43 GMT -6
Kelsey, I could be totally wrong so you may want to wait till you hear from people that know these things, but I think when 92.1 moved to 92.5, that left 92.1 open and the translator, which apparently is owned by Sanpet County Broadcasting, came later. So Simmons/Broadway does own 92.5 but not 92.1. That being said, here's a totally different theory. Isn't Sanpete County Broadcasting going to purchase KQMB, Utah's Goat at 96.7? As of, I think, three or four days ago, 96.7 was still the Goat. Maybe Sanpete is planning to simulcast The Goat, or whatever format they have in mind for 96.7, on 92.1 to give it more of a presence in the Salt Lake area. What I'm saying is an uneducated guess. LOL! |
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Post by David on Aug 24, 2022 16:52:35 GMT -6
The last time I checked the FCC database, both KQMB and KSRR were still licensed to JJIE Corporation (dba Lucky Dog Broadcasting), which is owned by Frank Mueller aka fmdj1. IIRC, the sale of KQMB and KSRR to Sanpete County Broadcasting was announced in March or April of this year, so the deal should be closing soon unless an extension of consummation has recently been filed with the FCC.
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