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Post by David on Mar 10, 2022 18:18:51 GMT -6
Take a look at listing #2888 for Utah on the Radio TV Deals site. I'm guessing that the station for sale is KMRI, because they're licensed for 10 kW days and 340 watts nights. It seems to be the most logical possibility, since the bankruptcy trustee probably wants to recover as much money as possible to cover the default on the promissory note from AASAA Media. The text of the listing seems more like a tourism brochure for the Wasatch Front than a for sale ad for a radio station, which I think is rather odd. At the very least, the seller probably should have included the day and nighttime power for the station, especially since it's being advertised as a "powerhouse AM signal". www.radiotvdeals.com/35.html?m8:search2[group]=2624599;search2[nested]=1 |
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Post by amanuensis on Mar 10, 2022 20:08:38 GMT -6
Very strange. Implies that Latter-day Saints don't listen to radio.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Mar 11, 2022 5:22:59 GMT -6
I'm not reading it that way amanuensis. I interpret it as saying something like "don't think of the market as a bunch of sticks in the mud where a harder format won't work."
I think there's a reason the power levels aren't given. They don't want to give away what station it is. They want the inquiry. Not sure why, but that seems to be common in the station brokering business. If they really wanted to lay all the cards on the table they'd just list the callsign.
As far as what station it is, there are other possibilities I can think of. I seem to remember something about KALL being up for sale along with the Hansen sports teams, but I'm not sure about that. Might iHeart be ready to unload KNRS(AM)?
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Post by David on Mar 11, 2022 9:18:52 GMT -6
I can't see Broadway Media getting rid of 700 AM unless they're planning on moving the sports format to one of their low rated FM stations. Moreover, $395 K seems too low of an asking price for a 50 kW days/10 kW nights AM signal in a Top 30 radio market. IMO, if it's not KMRI that's for sale, 570 KNRS would seem to be a good possibility. iHeart has been ignoring the AM frequency and focusing on promoting 105.9 for at least the past five years now.
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Post by kenglish on Mar 11, 2022 11:43:26 GMT -6
KNRS gets in to Scandinavia pretty well. Maybe someone could program it in Laplandic (I guess that's a language 😀).
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Post by David on Mar 11, 2022 13:07:23 GMT -6
KNRS gets in to Scandinavia pretty well. Maybe someone could program it in Laplandic (I guess that's a language 😀). The Northern European DX'ers in Finland, Sweden, and Norway are DX gods. I regularly see reports of U.S. AM stations being heard in those countries posted in the Facebook AM radio group I belong to. Of course, many of them are in rural or remote areas where they have the necessary real estate to put up huge beverage antennas that most DX'ers can only dream of. |
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Post by amanuensis on Mar 11, 2022 17:07:27 GMT -6
I'm not reading it that way amanuensis. I interpret it as saying something like "don't think of the market as a bunch of sticks in the mud where a harder format won't work."
Even with your take on it, "bunch of sticks in the mud" still sounds bad. It could have been phrased so much better. Perhaps something like, "SLC is the center of a large, diverse, metropolis of over 2.7 million people open to all radio formats."
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Post by oldiesfunhouse on Mar 11, 2022 17:31:03 GMT -6
Speaking of only dreaming, I wonder if the KLUB call letters are available. If it is 570 that's for sale, and if I had the 400K and the probably millions it would be to upgrade it, which I don't, I would bring back the music of your life nostalgia format on 570 and get the KLUB calls. Mark and Gayle Van Wagoner in the morning, Danny Kramer in the afternoon, Classic Radio Theater with Wyatt Cox from 7 to 10, and When Radio Was with Greg Bell from 10 to 11. I'd put shows like Dick Robinson's American Standards by the Sea and Sounds of Sinatra on during weekends. I'd have slogans like … when you hear Anne Murray in Murray, James Taylor in Taylorsville, and Rosemary Clooney in Rose Park, you know you're listening to America's Best Music on KLUB (pronounced club) five seventy, K L U B. When you hear Johnny Mathis in Magna, Nat King Cole in Coalville (does 570 get into Coalville?), and Dean Martin in Draper … well you get the idea. Then I woke up. |
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Post by kenglish on Mar 12, 2022 12:42:28 GMT -6
KNRS gets in to Scandinavia pretty well. Maybe someone could program it in Laplandic (I guess that's a language 😀). The Northern European DX'ers in Finland, Sweden, and Norway are DX gods. I regularly see reports of U.S. AM stations being heard in those countries posted in the Facebook AM radio group I belong to. Of course, many of them are in rural or remote areas where they have the necessary real estate to put up huge beverage antennas that most DX'ers can only dream of. "Food and Beverages are a DX'ers Delight". Ask those guys! 🍷🍺🍛🍤🍲☕🎧 |
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Post by David on Mar 12, 2022 15:24:45 GMT -6
Speaking of only dreaming, I wonder if the KLUB call letters are available. If it is 570 that's for sale, and if I had the 400K and the probably millions it would be to upgrade it, which I don't, I would bring back the music of your life nostalgia format on 570 and get the KLUB calls. Mark and Gayle Van Wagoner in the morning, Danny Kramer in the afternoon, Classic Radio Theater with Wyatt Cox from 7 to 10, and When Radio Was with Greg Bell from 10 to 11. I'd put shows like Dick Robinson's American Standards by the Sea and Sounds of Sinatra on during weekends. I'd have slogans like … when you hear Anne Murray in Murray, James Taylor in Taylorsville, and Rosemary Clooney in Rose Park, you know you're listening to America's Best Music on KLUB (pronounced club) five seventy, K L U B. When you hear Johnny Mathis in Magna, Nat King Cole in Coalville (does 570 get into Coalville?), and Dean Martin in Draper … well you get the idea. Then I woke up. The KLUB call letters are currently assigned to an FM station in Victoria, TX. However, I believe that an AM station could still apply for the call letters under current FCC rules. I think FM stations are supposed to legally ID with the station call letters and the "FM" suffix at the top of the hour, but in practice that requirement is often ignored. For example, 103.1 The Wave only ID's as "KLO" with the city of license at the TOH. Getting back to the subject at hand, I just did a search for KNRS at the Radio Locator site. For some reason the 570 AM frequency isn't showing up, just 105.9. I tried doing a call sign search as well as a search for radio stations in Salt Lake City, and KNRS AM didn't show up at all. Weird! 570 is still showing as licensed in the FCC database; in fact, the license was just renewed in October 2021. |
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Post by christopherjohn on Mar 12, 2022 16:25:19 GMT -6
I’m pretty sure its not 570….
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Mar 13, 2022 4:39:24 GMT -6
David, why do you think Broadway would be that committed to having a sports format? It made a lot of sense back when Dell Loy Hansen owned sports teams but makes less sense now.
The KLUB calls are in the Victoria TX area (actually licensed to Bloomington TX) but a station calling itself KLUB wouldn't actually need the KLUB callsign. "1320 KFAN" didn't have KFAN, which is in Minnesota. Legally it was KFNZ, but that was only used for the legal ID. KLLB is available, for example.
The callsign that needs to be used in a legal ID to be fully in compliance is the callsign that's officially given to the station. The -FM suffix is required if that's part of the callsign and can't be legally used if it isn't. 103.1 is legally KLO-FM and that's what they are supposed to use. FM 100.3 is KSFI (no -FM) and saying KSFI-FM would be incorrect.
Don't read too much into KNRS(AM) being missing from Radio Locator. That's part of a bigger problem. There seems to be a big chunk of AM data missing from the FCC LMS database. I'm sure it will be fixed...eventually.
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Post by David on Mar 13, 2022 13:24:36 GMT -6
CA, it's not so much that I think Broadway Media is committed to the sports format on KALL, but I just don't see any reason why the station would be for sale. If KALL was sold, that would leave KZNS as the only sports talk station in Salt Lake, and there wouldn't be an ESPN radio affiliate in market #28. KALL is consistently ahead of KZNS in the Nielsen ratings, so I have to believe it's making money for Broadway. Otherwise, Dell Loy Hansen probably would have sold the station when he sold Real Salt Lake. Moreover, I think the Salt Lake market is big enough to support two sports talk stations.
The other reason I don't think the AM station that's for sale is KALL is the text of the listing on the Radio TV Deals site. It sounds very similar to the text of the STA filings the bankruptcy receiver for KMRI has submitted to the FCC, not something that was written by someone who works for a media company. Unless the seller chooses to reveal more information about the station for sale, only time will tell if it's KMRI or not.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Mar 14, 2022 2:44:23 GMT -6
Selling KALL wouldn't necessarily mean the end of ESPN there. The ESPN affiliation is valuable and there are almost certainly contracts involved. I'm sure it makes money, though whether it would make more money (or some other sense) for someone else and thus motivate that someone to pay handsomely for it is another matter. ESPN Radio in general is confusing for me. ESPN just sold their New York, Los Angeles and Chicago O&O's who are keeping the affiliation. Why do that? I haven't got a clue.
As for the timing, it took MLS stepping in and taking over Real Salt Lake before anything got done there. That issue wouldn't apply with KALL if it is for sale.
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Post by amanuensis on Mar 14, 2022 8:50:09 GMT -6
KOVO's signal comes in well in the southern part of Salt Lake County. So if ESPN were to need a new affiliate, an Ogden station could be adequate. KOGN would do if it can get back on the air. KSVN is obviously not going to change.
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