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Post by kenglish on Jan 25, 2011 11:11:14 GMT -6
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Terry
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Usual Listening Area: east Murray
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Post by Terry on Jan 25, 2011 13:36:35 GMT -6
I guess KASL's actual calls are KSLL.
So, what are the rules now about FM translators carrying AM programming?
Could, for example, the translator at 98.3 on Ensign Peak legally carry KLO? Who owns that translator?
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Post by dxstuboy on Jan 25, 2011 17:55:20 GMT -6
Doesn't VFX use that translator?
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 25, 2011 23:07:35 GMT -6
Yes, 98.3 in Salt Lake (K252DI) is translating VFX.
The FCC now allows AM's to translate on FM. They started doing it on a trial (Special Temporary Authority) basis a few years ago but it's become policy now. The translator works similarly to a fill-in translator for a full service FM. One interesting thing is that the translator can stay on air even when the AM doesn't, such as with daytime only stations. KSLL is a daytimer, so this would allow them to stay on at night on the FM side only. I'm not sure where the reference to KASL came from, since that's in northeastern Wyoming and not related to anything near Price as far as I can tell.
P.S. DX, did you edit that Wikipedia article on KSLL?
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Post by dxstuboy on Jan 26, 2011 13:47:15 GMT -6
I did most of the edits to it, is there something missing/incorrect?
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Terry
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Usual Listening Area: east Murray
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Post by Terry on Jan 26, 2011 16:43:23 GMT -6
Doesn't VFX use that translator? Yes, 98.3 translates KVFX. I'm just curious about FCC rules - and wondering who owns that translator; it's not necessarily owned by Sun Valley. I'm just asking a theoretical question: is it legal for that translator to carry KLO and if so, who is the translator owner that could make that decision.
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Post by dxstuboy on Jan 26, 2011 19:01:34 GMT -6
I have an idea. Put HD on that translator, and put KLO and/or any other AMs on the HD-2 or more. AMs don't always require a lot of audio bandwidth especially if they are talk. An HD-2 and 3 wouldn't sound too bad.
I believe if Ibiquity didn't charge an arm and a leg for licensing fees, I think more stations would have adopted it by now. If they got rid of those fees, Capitol could possibly get HD on KBZN and put KLO on their HD-2. I'd imagine KBZN isn't doing too bad financial wise. This is of course in a world where I would get my way.
If you like KLO enough, let Capitol know that you would like to hear KBZN in HD and put KLO on their HD-2. You might be surprised. The more a station hears requests from its listeners, the more it usually does about them.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 26, 2011 21:51:17 GMT -6
I don't think there's anything wrong with the Wiki article, but the footnotes going to your site were pretty much a giveaway.
A translator can only be owned by the same company as the parent station if it's a fill-in translator like 99.1 is. 98.3 is owned by First National Broadcasting. You may remember them from their previous ownership of KSOS 800 and KXOL 1660, and I'm pretty sure they once owned what's now KEGH but was previously KRAR and before that was KSOS-FM (106.9). I believe they could run KLO if an agreement were reached.
I don't think I've ever heard of a translator running IBOC. I'm not sure it's forbidden, but with the low power that the digital sideburns would have to be at, would it work very well? It doesn't work hugely well on full power class C stations with 26000w or whatever, so how well would it work on a station that only has 160w?
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Post by dxstuboy on Jan 27, 2011 13:44:15 GMT -6
Good point. The power on HD is something like 10% of the power the analog puts out (correct me if I'm wrong). 1.6 watts of HD would be worthless. I think KBZN should get HD and put KLO on it's HD-2, problem solved.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 28, 2011 1:18:10 GMT -6
Yes. It started at 1%, then last year went up to 10%.
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