dspete
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Post by dspete on Jan 7, 2010 18:55:05 GMT -7
Just read that the Spanish music was dropped from KOVO 960 and returned back to the Simmons Sports Zone 1280.
Also stated that it's also on an FM 92.9 in Utah County? What was that station before they switched it?
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henry
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Post by henry on Jan 7, 2010 20:20:51 GMT -7
I believe 92.9 is a translator that retransmits 960.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 7, 2010 21:46:46 GMT -7
Dumping the Spanish is a strange move. KOVO was simulcasting with KXOL 1660 Brigham City and that made a lot of sense. Neither station alone can cover the market, but together they're reasonable. The real benefit for Zone would be at night. I don't think they really need help that much daytime, do they?
The translator in question is K225AP on the east side of Orem. It's owned by the Feulner's of Park City Wireless fame, and they bought it from Radio Assist Ministry a few years ago intending to translate KCPW. They put in an STA request to translate KOVO in 2008 but that was dismissed in 2009 presumably because permission is no longer necessary. Radio Locator says they're translating KEGA The Eagle, but that must has been a placeholder since Eagle's booster is at the same location with high power.
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Post by seattlefollower on Jan 8, 2010 11:04:59 GMT -7
It's too bad it's not translating KCPW. They deserve the chance to reach Utah County too. With that, they'd have most of the metro sewn up except Tooele. I'd be interested to see where most meters are coming from in relation to population in SLC-Ogden-Provo. The market up here is not in balance.
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Post by Timmy on Jan 8, 2010 11:13:10 GMT -7
Can't somone operate KOVO as a local, Provo/Utah County radio station with some sense of locale? I know we have some FMs down here but their automated or off the bird and have nothing that says hey! we're Utah County's own yadda yadda!
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Post by utradioguide on Jan 8, 2010 15:44:28 GMT -7
Timmy, I've thought of walking up to Ruby Morey and saying "hey, pay me minimum wage, 40 hours a week and I'll turn 96.7 into Utah County's premier local station." But I'm pretty sure I already know what her answer would be. I'm sure Simmons' answer would be an even more emphatic "no." Of course, if anybody from Simmons has a different answer, they're welcome to PM me.  |
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Post by Timmy on Jan 9, 2010 16:27:34 GMT -7
I'd do it too! I'd do it for a penny less than min wage!
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 9, 2010 21:32:58 GMT -7
KCPW is indeed rather cramped and it's only going to get worse. The 105.3 translator that serves most of Davis and Weber can't stay where it is once the frequency shifts on the upper end of the dial go into effect over the next few years. 1010AM would have been a real help there, but that's long gone. There are some frequencies that are available, but most of them are co-channel with Logan area stations which cuts their effectiveness.
You can take the plea for actual local radio in Provo and apply it to any outlying area in any metro area. Ogden could use a real local voice. (Hmm. KOGN isn't currently busy.) The areas even further out are shortchanged even worse. Places like Randolph, Woodruff, Oakley, etc. supposedly have local service, but that's a joke and everyone knows it. On the other hand, forcing real local service might prove too costly to make stations profitable. No easy answers.
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Post by thebaldone on Jan 11, 2010 18:36:30 GMT -7
Oh the good ole days at KOVO Provo. I spent 2 years of my life at those studios listening to 1280 the zone and doing my homework. Pretty cush job eh? I tried and tried to get Millcreek at the time to let me run something out of those studios... either on 105.1 or 103.9... They wouldn't do it... they never will... neither Simmons or MillCreek. Just think of how cool it would be to have a local AM and 2 FM's for Provo... Sports on the AM covering everything that the zone would cover PLUS in depth coverage of UVU, BYU, and high school sports for Utah County. Then on 105.1 you could do something like "LIVE 105, real people real music... and then have a 24/7 staff that would play Popular music/Top 40 with older stuff mixed in. Then on 103.9 you could do something like "kick'n Country" again with a local flavor and 24/7 DJ's...
Now while it has been fun to relive what I day dreamed about for 2 years... It will never happen because the bigger companies only care about $$$$... 105.1 better serves U92's interest as their Utah County signal... and 103.9 better serves the interest of the Mix. Sucks, I know.
Bob Morey was only ever interested in a local format on 96.7 if it was financially worth it... you could never convince him of it unless you went out and sold $100k a month in advertising... wasn't going to happen, now he isn't with us anymore.
Timmy, I share your enthusiasm... unfortunately my hopes have been crushed so many times along those lines.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 12, 2010 0:36:55 GMT -7
There may be hope. When 107.9 becomes a Humpy rimshot there really won't be a need to keep Mix on 103.9, though it may be on 99.1 by then.
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Post by dxstuboy on Jan 12, 2010 13:50:33 GMT -7
Ugh... why all of these changes. I think the SL radio dial is fine as is, we don't need any more stations! I thought Millcreek didn't have enough money to pay for that sort of thing anyway?
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 12, 2010 22:05:03 GMT -7
Ugh... why all of these changes. I think the SL radio dial is fine as is, we don't need any more stations! I thought Millcreek didn't have enough money to pay for that sort of thing anyway? Deals were made years ago, and the FCC says it shall happen. Of course they also said that the 103.9 and 99.1 shuffles were supposed to happen to, and that hasn't yet. Frankly I'm surprised nobody (as far as I know) has gotten beaten up over not doing what they were told but that's another story. The reason for more stations is more money. The more stations you have the bigger share of the pie you get. At least in theory..... |
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Post by dxstuboy on Jan 12, 2010 23:03:19 GMT -7
Then it comes down to how you program your stations. Well programmed and good sounding radio stations exist (obviously) and in Salt Lake City as well. Whether these new stations will do well has yet to be seen. Other than money, I wonder why the Salt Lake dial needs to be more crowded. Isn't this one of the most over radioed markets in the country already?
I can't see a good reason to move a station from Kemmerer, Wyoming into the market. Fail!
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 13, 2010 0:08:31 GMT -7
It's math my friend. Let's use Kemmerer vs Salt Lake as an example. Say the station in Kemmerer gets a whopping 20 share in the city. The same station moved to rimshot Salt Lake only gets a 1 share in the crowded market.
Kemmerer has a population of about 2400. The 20 share would be 48 people.
Salt Lake has a population of about 181000. A 1 share would 181 people, more than 3 times as many.
Obviously this is a simplistic example, but looking at entire coverage areas follows the same principle. The percentage will be far less, but the number of ears you reach is greater. The number of people is where it's at.
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Post by dxstuboy on Jan 13, 2010 16:16:47 GMT -7
The main reason I don't want to see any changes is for two reasons, 1) I don't like change 2) Time consuming updates to my website . |
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