LPFM KZSK on 94.5 in West Jordan (licensed to Salt Lake) is showing now as running under program test authority and has applied for their license to cover. Their predicted contour doesn't reach up to where VFX's 98.3 translator is and is in the opposite direction of Logan so VFX in Salt Lake may be OK. Then again you never know. Can anyone confirm if KZSK is on the air and what the programming is?
98.3 Salt Lake is on Ensign Peak, and has to get an off-air signal either from Newton, above Newton Dam (the 94 kilowatt main), or from the booster in Tremonton which is around 11 kilowatts. Newton is around 75 miles as the crow flies, and Tremonton is maybe 65 or so. Tremonton looks like more of a clear shot without as much terrain shielding, so not sure which one squeaks in to the receive antenna on Ensign. I've heard the 98.3 VFX signal sound a bit fuzzy at times when I've been in SLC, so I imagine 100 watts in the right spot (could) be a fly in the ointment for the VFX booster. If someone hears the LPFM test on 94.5, I would be interested to know what 98.3 is sounding like at that time, if you are normally able to get VFX from where you are, just out of curiosity.
Slight side note here. I'm pretty fuzzy on transmitter site names in general. If I understand it correctly, there are two different names for the two different transmitter sites that are next to each other just north of Salt Lake where the 98.3 translator is. One is called Ensign Peak and the other isn't. Is that correct or am I wrong again? It doesn't matter much for the current discussion, but I strive to be accurate.
As far as which signal is being received, I think you're right that the booster has a bit of a clearer shot. It really doesn't matter though. The two waves should meet in a constructive (rather than destructive) way and complement each other. (The physics of constructive and destructive waves is actually rather fascinating if anyone wants to take a look at it.) One key piece of information I don't have is whether the translator (and 98.3 is a translator not a booster) has a directional receive antenna. VFX has known for almost 3 years that this new station was coming on the air, so it would stand to reason that they would have done some calculating to see if they needed to directionalize the receive antenna to compensate where nothing was needed before. They may also have always assumed possible interference for all I know. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out.
VFX 98.3 translator is indeed on Ensign Peak. I'm not sure if there is another site next to Ensign, but there is a cluster of multiple buildings / sites there at Ensign, and that same main road continues on and there is at least one site on a peak a bit further up the road. I don't have knowledge of a different named site but others here probably know more than I do on that. I have seen the VFX translator building from the outside. There was a directional Yagi receive antenna on a pole outside the north side of the building then. Ensign is right at the north end of Salt Lake City downtown area. I think all of them have a great look southward but some of the buildings are down the hill or kind of in a hole when looking north and I think VFX is in one of those buildings if I remember correctly. When I was in SLC a while back I could get a strong signal from VFX 98.3 Salt Lake translator on an FM tuner, but there was still some static so I think they are already on the hairy edge reception-wise. They may have made adjustments but otherwise there could be audible interference. Or 98.3 could be a big boost for the LPFM (!) ... but I doubt that.
Well reading over the FCC application for KZSK and Salt Lake Community Radio it states they will be spreading the word of God and making sure to help the homeless community? So yet another station with 0.01% people listening I'm guessing Sorry if that's offensive but if your into that maybe it will be your go to station.....
I will check when I go home tonight. I live in WJ at about Redwood Road andi 90th South.
I'm not hearing anything in WJ other than VFX faintly. In Lehi, I am hearing 960 AM on 94.5. I did not realize they had a translator.
I'm glad you mentioned that. I remember hearing that 960 sports station 95 watt (?) translator from Provo faintly in some parts of downtown SLC. It would come and go and was really scratchy, but you could tell they were doing a sports commentary show. So 100 watts from the right peak can travel some distance.
KOVO is on K233DI Provo. There's also even ANOTHER translator between that and Salt Lake. That's K233DV near Draper for KNIT 1320. The FCC has really made a mess of things with all these shoehorned signals. And people thought Docket 80-90 was bad....
So Thursday night in SLC i definitely heard some interfeerance to 98.3. i could hear FVX, but could hear something else along with it and the whole thing sounded very distorted and static'y. Couldn't hear anything on 94.5 though, not even VFX. Then in Bluffdale yesterday nothing but regular programming on 98.3 and 94.5 and same today both there and SLC. Something else interesting that i heard on Thursday but not today or yesterday was that i heard at least 3 different signals on 96.7 and couldn't hear anything well enough to definitively say what was what but i'd never heard that before.
So Thursday night in SLC i definitely heard some interfeerance to 98.3. i could hear FVX, but could hear something else along with it and the whole thing sounded very distorted and static'y.
Ensign Peak transmitter site was having some issues on Friday. I cannot speak for VFX, but I know that one of the main repeaters for two of the Humpy Peak stations went offline on Friday for a few hours. So maybe VFX's translator started out the problem on Thursday...?
Just adding 2c. :-)
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It sounds like the LPFM hasn't really began their programming yet. I appreciate the listener reports because I think it definitely could be interesting with another 94.5 out there. Since 98.3 VFX SLC translator is an off-air feed of 94.5 from a distance. If it gets scratchy, hopefully Brent Larson reads this forum, and can send a team out to make sure his VFX translator is ok.
Post by oldiesfunhouse on Aug 14, 2019 7:39:54 GMT -7
Brent Larson? Does he own Cache Valley Media? Pardon my lack of knowledge but I thought Brent Larson was the guy who owned, or at least operated, the old KSOS at 92.1 and 96.7 FM at one time and then later at AM 800 in Brigham City. Then, even later, 1660 KXOL also licensed to Brigham. 800 went dark which made room for AM 820 KUTR to come on. Anyway .. perhaps I'm up in the night. I usually am.
I had to check again because it was formerly owned by the same Brent Larson but it looks like it was sold to Arthur Frank LLC in 2014 (?). I don't know anything about them, but it shows they purchased it from First National Broadcasting in a few places on the web. I don't think Cache Valley Media can own a translator that far out of their coverage area, but others can carry VFX's programming on a translator that they own, provided they don't have any business relationship (I believe).