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Post by dxlistener on Apr 15, 2019 6:07:11 GMT -6
Does anybody know what's on at 99.9?
They play big band to the carpenters, that type, and their slogan is the GOAT, the greatest hits of all time, but their is no callsign id, hear it mostly thru northern utah county
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Post by Timmy on Apr 15, 2019 7:30:24 GMT -6
Look below in the thread called Zeta Stations. It has some info about the goat.
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Post by David on Apr 15, 2019 10:20:16 GMT -6
Does anybody know what's on at 99.9? They play big band to the carpenters, that type, and their slogan is the GOAT, the greatest hits of all time, but their is no callsign id, hear it mostly thru northern utah county It's the FM translator for KWLO 1580. Their web site is utahsgoat.com. The new owner of the former Zeta stations, KSRR 1400 & KQMB 96.7, has also LMA'ed KWLO from RAMS III. |
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Post by dxlistener on Apr 15, 2019 10:25:12 GMT -6
Aren't stations supposed to ID at or near the top of the hour though?
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Post by David on Apr 15, 2019 10:36:41 GMT -6
Yes, all broadcast stations are required by the FCC to give their legal ID at the top of each hour, or as close to TOH as possible. If the station on 99.9 isn't airing a legal ID with the translator call sign (K260DS), I'd suggest you PM fmdj1 and let him know. His name is Frank, and he's very responsive to listener input.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Apr 16, 2019 6:23:27 GMT -6
Translators don't have the same ID requirements as full service stations. Probably most importantly for the current purposes, translators are not required to (and almost never do) ID aurally. I'm not a lawyer but I believe that it would be legal to insert the AM's legal ID only on the feed going to the AM transmitter and have the non-aural ID given only by the translator. That seems to me like too much work for too little benefit, but I've seen weirder.
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Post by fmdj1 on Apr 16, 2019 23:10:40 GMT -6
Does anybody know what's on at 99.9? They play big band to the carpenters, that type, and their slogan is the GOAT, the greatest hits of all time, but their is no callsign id, hear it mostly thru northern utah county Thanks for the heads up. I try to keep the legal ID at the top of the hour, but sometimes some songs push it a little before or after. I'll go back and double check just to make sure nothing is wonky. I try to keep an ear on it as well. You will notice when you hear the ID that I identify both the translator and the main station. Technically the FCC only requires the translator be ID'd 3 times a day, but I love that we have a translator and that it is licensed to Provo, so we ID it more than needed  If you ever have any questions/concerns/input on the station, please feel free to PM me. I'm not on here daily but try to check frequently. |
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Post by amanuensis on Apr 17, 2019 8:38:45 GMT -6
Just curious, fmdj1, how did you define, "Greatest of all Time"? I agree with most of your choices, but there have to be SOME boundaries. Obviously, you are leaving Beethoven to a different Utah County station, and I haven't heard any Sousa marches, either.
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Post by fmdj1 on Apr 17, 2019 20:39:07 GMT -6
Just curious, fmdj1, how did you define, "Greatest of all Time"? I agree with most of your choices, but there have to be SOME boundaries. Obviously, you are leaving Beethoven to a different Utah County station, and I haven't heard any Sousa marches, either. That is the real struggle, isn't it? Mainly, I wanted to avoid the word "Oldies", both because it has fallen out of fashion with advertisers and I don't think most people in the target audience would define themselves as old. The suggestion for using the GOAT term came from my old operations manager at the last station I managed. I liked the sound of it as the pop hits from the 50s-70s seem to have a significant amount of staying power. While not on the radio as much (don't get me started on why I think that is a HUGE mistake), you still hear movies and TV shows and ads use them regularly. In fact, I was amazed at how many songs my younger kids knew when we started playing them the first time. Even though I grew up with them, that doesn't mean I've played them as much around the kids, but they still knew them. That being said, I think there is certainly a valid argument for classifying many different songs from various times and genres into a "greatest of all time", and I certainly love many different types of music, but that would probably be more adventurous than even the broadest Jack format, and I do have to have some boundaries to build an audience around. |
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Post by David on Apr 17, 2019 23:13:08 GMT -6
I don't define myself as old (55), because I'm still working and will continue to work for at least another 10-15 years to have a decent retirement; so I'm still spending money on a regular basis. However, advertisers don't see it that way. Once you hit 55, you become invisible to Nielsen and most advertisers. Nevertheless, I'm pleased to see that at least one station in the Salt Lake/Ogden/Provo area isn't ignoring us baby boomers. We're still alive, and we still have money to spend! |
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Apr 17, 2019 23:13:59 GMT -6
My moonshot dream if I ever win the lottery is to buy a radio station and program what I could summarize as an all-over-the-road format. 50's rock 'n roll to a current CHR to a TV theme to 80's pop to a standard to classic rock to jazz to classical to a showtune to whatever. It wouldn't be a commercial format, but it would be crazy entertaining. I've actually mentioned the idea to a few non radio geek friends over the years and they like the idea. Who knows, it might just be crazy enough to catch on. I wouldn't expect it to be anything other than a money pit though. Unfortunately that's not an option if you have a business to run.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Apr 17, 2019 23:41:56 GMT -6
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Post by fmdj1 on Apr 18, 2019 20:19:12 GMT -6
My moonshot dream if I ever win the lottery is to buy a radio station and program what I could summarize as an all-over-the-road format. 50's rock 'n roll to a current CHR to a TV theme to 80's pop to a standard to classic rock to jazz to classical to a showtune to whatever. It wouldn't be a commercial format, but it would be crazy entertaining. I've actually mentioned the idea to a few non radio geek friends over the years and they like the idea. Who knows, it might just be crazy enough to catch on. I wouldn't expect it to be anything other than a money pit though. Unfortunately that's not an option if you have a business to run. As you say, it would have to be non-comm, but I don't think it would have to be a money loser. The audience doesn't have to be huge, just dedicated enough that they are willing to support it. On second thought, it could potentially work commercial depending on how it was set up. I remember reading an article about a franken-FM in Chicago going number 1 playing basically the songs that were on the owner's ipod. |
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Apr 19, 2019 0:11:59 GMT -6
The Franken FM in Chicago is MeTV FM. It's an oldies station owned by Weigel. Not #1 but doing very well considering the technical obstacles.
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Post by radiowyoming on Apr 20, 2019 20:15:55 GMT -6
Translators don't have the same ID requirements as full service stations. Probably most importantly for the current purposes, translators are not required to (and almost never do) ID aurally. I'm not a lawyer but I believe that it would be legal to insert the AM's legal ID only on the feed going to the AM transmitter and have the non-aural ID given only by the translator. That seems to me like too much work for too little benefit, but I've seen weirder. Translators only have to ID 3x a day.. but most now can and do ID inaudibly with FSK.. frequency shift keying, but slightly shifting the carrier.. its inaudible to the human ear |
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