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Post by amanuensis on Jan 10, 2019 10:51:52 GMT -6
Do you mean signal strength or the processing of the station or something else?
I am not sure of the technical terms. All I know is that previously, when I tuned the station in on my car radios, I had to increase the volume when I switched to it and then decrease it it when I went back to any other station. Now I don't have to do that. And there seems to be higher highs and lower lows. Dynamic range? It was as if the transmitter had previously been optimized for talk radio and now it is optimized for music.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 11, 2019 2:32:38 GMT -6
Ah, ok. The volume issue is audio levels and the highs and lows are frequency response. Both could be broadly described as processing. That is completely independent of the transmitter itself. The transmitter just sends out whatever is fed into it. It doesn't modify anything. There are a bewildering array of processing gear that takes care of that part and it sounds like something there might have changed. Can someone check the 99.5 HD2 broadcast against 99.1 and tell me how the delays compare? That could be a clue.
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Post by amanuensis on Jan 11, 2019 10:54:46 GMT -6
Speaking of KJMY-FM2, I have heard no legal IDs on 99.1 for KJMY-FM2. Are they aired only on 99.5? Or are they not aired at all? Or are they aired and I have just always missed them?
How do translators air their own legal IDs? I seem to vaguely recall hearing that the rules are more relaxed for them than they are for full-power stations.
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Post by Terry on Jan 11, 2019 23:51:31 GMT -6
I just checked KJMY-HD2 vs. 99.1 and the HD is about 30 seconds after the programming on 99.1.
And oddly there was a station ID at about :45 after the hour. Both signals IDed both stations (30 seconds apart).
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 11, 2019 23:58:30 GMT -6
First a reference: www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2011-title47-vol4/pdf/CFR-2011-title47-vol4-sec74-1283.pdfAs far as I know the requirements for the digital subchannels are the same as the analog/HD1 channels. As I understand it, the only additional requirements for digital channels is that they identify that they are in digital though it isn't a verbatim requirement and isn't part of the legal ID itself. Since the translator by definition is supposed to be simulcasting the primary station in full (with the exception of the local avail rule which I'm going to ignore here since it doesn't seem relevant) the KJMY-HD2 legal ID should be heard on 99.1 as well. Many stations bury the legal ID in the middle of the stopset :15 or :20 before the hour and run a big sweeper at the top of the hour, but nobody really seems to care much about it. You might look there. The link above gives the specifics for translators which as you say are more relaxed. In practice almost all translators in my experience use the FSK ID method since nobody is going to even notice it unless they go looking. Most people probably wouldn't know what the heck K257GJ is anyway. In other news, I tend to think it's not a coincidence that right after we got the report that the signal got cleaned up iHeart has started airing TV commercials for it. I'm almost positive it was during Young Sheldon on Thursday night that the ad aired and that ain't a cheap time slot. It's interesting that they would be advertising a station that can be heard in such a small area, so I have to wonder if they're in the market for one or more of the other 99.1's in the market to add to the simulcast. There was no mention of the 99.5 HD2 signal at all.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 12, 2019 0:12:28 GMT -6
Thanks Terry. If the sequence now is the 99.1 signal is first and the 99.5HD2 signal comes later, that's different from last month when the 99.5HD2 signal was first and the 99.1 came later. That's consistent with what I was going to speculate that the difference in the sound of the station that amanuensis heard was the switch from feeding the translator off-air from KJMY-HD2 to being fed by an alternate means that might sound better. The timing seems long, but the other parts fit. Not sure if that's what happened but it's plausible.
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Post by mtndew on Jan 12, 2019 23:04:36 GMT -6
Sometimes Frandsen's 99.1 KNYN from Evanston barely squeeks into the Valley in a very small area usually a bit north of Salt Lake, which could limit some coverage area, but then there is his other peanut whistle 24 watt KKEX translator in Ogden, don't know if that would be an attractive addition but maybe. There's a CP for a 250 watt (replacement translator?) of that one, but at 93.7 frequency.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 13, 2019 1:29:15 GMT -6
99.1 is tricky because of what was supposed to happen with a ruling by the FCC having to do with swapping around various stations on 99.1 and 103.9. It's been a while since I read the docket, but I think it went like this originally; KGNT Smithfield and what used to be KUDE Nephi would both move from 103.9 to 99.1. (The Nephi half of that has happened.) Then KNYN would move from 99.1 to 103.9 and move out to Humpy Peak and become a Salt Lake rimshot. The ex-KUDE move to 99.1 was actually what kicked what's now Easy 99.1 off Lake Mountain near Provo and scurrying up to Salt Lake kicking off all this craziness. The move of the KKEX translator to 93.7 would be required if KGNT did make the move to 99.1. As I recall there was a later modification that still resulted in basically the same thing happening, but the technical behind the scenes details were different. I really don't want to get into that nonsense.
Everybody confused yet?
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Post by mtndew on Jan 13, 2019 3:13:10 GMT -6
Makes my head hurt, don't know how you keep track of all that!
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Post by mtndew on Jan 13, 2019 11:01:41 GMT -6
Actually, I suppose the KNYN signal would likely stay fairly close to home if it remains at it's STA reduced power of 625 watts, which is the result of a tower collapse in 2005. There is a mention on the latest STA Extension Application (in essence) that the FCC would not be willing to entertain KNYN's continues operation on that frequency indefinitely, and will receive no protection from interference from KMGR's construction permit facility once it is ready for testing and operation. It says the owners of KNYN are working on a technical solution that would render the channel change unnecessary. I'm guessing something should develop on that soon, but I don't have a clue what it could be.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 15, 2019 0:54:34 GMT -6
The licensed coverage areas of KNYN and KMGR don't touch each other so that shouldn't be a problem. I have the feeling that Mr Bickel may be confusing where KNYN currently is with where it was supposed to move. If KNYN were to become a Humpy station then there would definitely be a problem with both of them being on 99.1. As it is, even looking at KNYN's possible licensed facilities and KMGR's possible licensed facilities, I don't see how any of them touch each other no matter which combination you try. And that doesn't even take the terrain into account. I'm not sure what the FCC is looking at but I'm not getting it.
As for a technical solution, they could simply change the table of allocations back to what it was before which is where everything is now. That's what happened with KDWY. It was going to move out of Kemmerer and become a Humpy rimshot at 105.5. That was part of Docket 05-243 that shook up the whole top of the dial. In the end they simply stayed put and just reverted the table of allocations to reflect that. That would simplify matters greatly.
And yes trying to keep track of all of this is a challenge. Be thankful I didn't go into the details that I skipped over. If you think your brain hurts now, that would probably make it explode. I just hope I"m getting the facts right. I certainly try.
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Post by Terry on Jan 20, 2019 23:50:49 GMT -6
I saw an ad for "Easy 99.1" during the "Young Sheldon" show on channel 2. Surprised me.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 22, 2019 2:03:58 GMT -6
Was that ad this past week or earlier?
I also saw one on Monday's Ellen as I was flipping around. I think it's pretty much confirmed that iHeart is making a serious push.
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Post by Terry on Jan 22, 2019 14:40:04 GMT -6
I saw the Easy 99.1 ad last week. It was recorded via my YouTubeTV subscription, so I'm not sure when it aired live though it said "recorded 5 days ago". The episode was called something like Blue Man Backside.
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Post by CAwasinNJ on Jan 23, 2019 1:26:33 GMT -6
Ah. I think that must be "A Mother, a Child and a Blue Man's Backside" which originally aired last April. That must have been one of the reruns that CBS has been airing recently. I had already seen that one so I didn't bother reoording it. I saw an Easy 99.1 ad during YS two weeks ago but didn't notice anything on last week's new episode. I thought I might have missed it so thanks. I'll sleep better now.
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